Public Enemy - By The Time I Get To Arizona  

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Music video by Public Enemy performing By The Time I Get To Arizona. (C) 1991 The Island Def Jam Music Group








"Fight of the Century" is the new economics hip-hop music video by John Papola and Russ Roberts at EconStories.tv. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the Great Recession ended almost two years ago, in the summer of 2009. Yet we're all uneasy. Job growth has been disappointing. The recovery seems fragile. Where should we head from here? Is that question even meaningful? Can the government steer the economy or have past attempts helped create the mess we're still in? In "Fight of the Century", Keynes and Hayek weigh in on these central questions. Do we need more government spending or less? What's the evidence that government spending promotes prosperity in troubled times? Can war or natural disasters paradoxically be good for an economy in a slump? Should more spending come from the top down or from the bottom up? What are the ultimate sources of prosperity? Keynes and Hayek never agreed on the answers to these questions and they still don't. Let's listen to the greats. See Keynes and Hayek throwing down in "Fight of the Century"! Starring Billy and Adam from http Visit www.econstories.tv for the full lyrics.
Video Rating: 4 / 5

50 Comments

DoomCity202   says August 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Got daaaaaamn...i forgot all about this joint.

poughkeepsiejohn1   says August 16, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Things are actually worse in Arizona today now that they've got Jan Brewer and Sarah Palin.

GSPflip94   says August 16, 2011 at 10:14 PM

@Hitmanneverdead

THPS 4 was on some ps2 shit, step your game up son

clarencejones07   says August 16, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Chuck-D from Public Enemy gave ill info for - "H OW..: TO..: R AP"
that is the name of this awesome book hes in, where the best rappers came together to create the-greatest hiphop book... Tribe, Pharcyde, Brand Nubian, G Rap, Kane, Pharoahe monch, etcc.

Remedyz21   says August 16, 2011 at 11:56 PM

@alexparvu Cry more about nothing. waaaaah I can't get something for free waaah. How much of a bitch fit do you throw when you mom still doesn't give you the tit?

CarlaMills   says August 17, 2011 at 12:47 AM

All rappers talk about today is Bullshit.........

seamac206   says August 17, 2011 at 1:29 AM

it is funny how ace hood and nicki minaj are above this and all they talk about is the club and public enemy is like cnn

87cadillachearse   says August 17, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Chuck D has the most badass voice and best meter ever. Too bad hip hop has gone to hell.

GeneralGhost   says August 17, 2011 at 2:03 AM

@elgracko At the end of the day we can disagree with the fine details but we have to agree that a line has been drawn in the sand and we sane and educated people of all color must stand for sanity and not the opposite and that includes fighting against those who share our identity but dont share our views of peace but rather divide and conquer for their own good. WIth the election of a colored president nothing has changed but the boldness of those who wish to see us disappear.

elgracko   says August 17, 2011 at 2:30 AM

@killyourhead i guess you're right, it's just a rap video.

just, you know, it makes you wonder, right? it's been over 40 years since either of them were both assasinated. one stood for peace, one advocated violence. either way their end was violent. so did violence win?

malcom x and dr. king we're not advisaries, but they we'ren't the same thing. kind of makes you wonder if their message was lost. both grouped together as, in some sense, radicals that brought about a change.

hope not.

killyourhead   says August 17, 2011 at 2:57 AM

They all might be for what I know, but It's not hard to find statements made by Chuck and Flavor supporting Obama before he was in office.

killyourhead   says August 17, 2011 at 3:24 AM

@elgracko Maybe it also suggests that if the song was non-threatening it wouldn't be as good : )
Compare to how that in another song, "black steel..." he says he's drafted while there was no draft in USA 1988.

2. Saying "I have other heroes than MLK as well", maybe suggesting the solution somewhere in the dynamics in between militance and mlk or something?

killyourhead   says August 17, 2011 at 3:56 AM

@elgracko 1991 called, they want their overanalyzing of political rap back.

Seriously though, basically everyone did and Chucks general response (having read/seen lots of interviews and bios) were:
1. The song and video is a "trip to the fantasy world of PE". The governor of arizona that was against the holiday stepped down in 1989 or 88, Chuck was aware of this but decided that threatening a fictional governor would be more effective than a board of politicans/the people of AZ.

MrGreen134   says August 17, 2011 at 4:08 AM

12 folks didnt make it to arizona :D

winggoddess   says August 17, 2011 at 4:52 AM

martin luther king jr. would not approve of the majority of african americans today.

GeneralGhost   says August 17, 2011 at 5:40 AM

@GeneralGhost At the end of the day we can disagree with the fine details but we have to agree that a line has been drawn in the sand and we sane and educated people of all color must stand for sanity and not the opposite and that includes fighting against those who share our identity but dont share our views of peace but rather divide and conquer for their own good. WIth the election of a colored president nothing has changed but the boldness of those who wish to see us disappear.

THESNEAKERADDICT   says August 17, 2011 at 6:15 AM

CLASSIICK

shoplifting1is1fun   says August 17, 2011 at 7:04 AM

Love this song. Loved THPS 4 too for including it.

Vevo can kiss my ass.

PotatoPlop   says August 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM

why does this song only have 77k views?

AirborneEASY   says August 17, 2011 at 7:32 AM

Fuck Arizona....

elgracko   says August 17, 2011 at 8:13 AM

@GeneralGhost i don't know, i don't think i agree. I think the song and video are cool, but i more think Dr. King's message of peace and passive resistance was not for the sake of whitey, but for our sake.

It's about holding ourselves to a higher standard. I mean, how can we claim to be different of white supremacists if we stoop to their lever?

i just see this as a betrayal to his beautiful, high ideals. Malcom had his reasons, i guess too, but... i don't know. anybody else has an opinion?

corymartin100   says August 17, 2011 at 8:32 AM

Man! I LOVE PE but watchin this video iz makin me MAD all over AGAIN!!!!

GeneralGhost   says August 17, 2011 at 8:56 AM

@elgracko Ya but Malcom X did not. Those who wont accept DR Kings peaceful image dont deserve mercy. Arizona is a blemish in our great country and PE took the fight directly to him, this was true hip-hop at work.

elgracko   says August 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM

does anybody else see contradiction in this video?

wasn't Dr. King against militant action?

napalmwaltz   says August 17, 2011 at 9:20 AM

@HelpSpades That's an uneducated statement, the members of Public Enemy are opposed to the Obama administration. Uneducated statements and reckless behavior will ensure the Obama presidency another 4 years, so maybe you should consider looking up facts about individuals or groups before making blanket statements. Peace and God bless.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Tax cuts, subsidies and defense combined make up 75% of the national budget. Unemployment is around or less than 5%.

If you call this Keynesian then you would be arguably correct.

But Keynes HATED social programs, and these are what progressives support. Obama faced almost BRUTE FORCE opposition from the right just to get Healthcare coverage for 55Million uninsured Americans. He also had to fight tooth and nail for unemployment. This is the opposite of "Keynesian" by ANY definition.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM

@joepeeler34
"other schools" if you are referring to liberalism, actually exist in the real world. There are progressive liberals in Washington as we speak. There is not ONE single libertarian in Washington.

Your (school) has only ever existed in a book. FANTASY! You actually make me laugh when you start to rant. I mean it is SO ridiculous. When I write ROTFLMAO, it is close to literal.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 10:41 AM

@joepeeler34
My statement was as clear as day. Your brain is so backward from being bombarded with propaganda you cannot comprehend the simplest of statements. You theories are retarded.

My statement was as follows. "The percentage of the national budget". The figures don't lie but your fantasy "libertarian" authors DO. In fact LYING is all they do, to spread GOP propaganda.

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joepeeler34   says August 17, 2011 at 11:07 AM

@g4macdad I think it amusing that you think the "WHOLE" (capitalized) world gives a shit about your post on a YouTube board. That explains a lot about your delusional sense of importance.

joepeeler34   says August 17, 2011 at 12:02 PM

@g4macdad Do you know what praxeology is? Do you know the difference between induction and deduction? To claim that the Austrians abandon logic is absurd. It is a deductive a priori approach to a human science. The problem with the other schools is that they pretend that economics isn't a human science. It must be primarily a deductive science precisely because it is a human science. I find it amusing that instead of reading a book you scour the internet for a bad review written by a socialist.

joepeeler34   says August 17, 2011 at 12:15 PM

@g4macdad Now that I think about it, I think your "5%" number for welfare spending is a % of GDP. That's not the same thing. Military spending is 4.7% of GDP. Those are different statistics from percentage of government spending. I think you are confused because you are new to this type of debate. Don't worry, we'll teach you :)

joepeeler34   says August 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM

@g4macdad Also, since you claim that Keynesian economists don't claim that deficit spending is what got us out of the Depression (this is wrong btw), google "Great Depression" and read through the entry. Keynesians only fault FDR for not spending enough!! They think that spending is the starting point for wealth creation. The Great Depression ended in 1946 when taxes and spending were slashed and wartime measures (price controls, etc.) went away.

SaulOhio   says August 17, 2011 at 1:35 PM

@g4macdad Reviews can include a lot of relevant information about the book. Opinions are not just arbitrary feelings. They are often evaluations based on fact. It is a fact that Howard Zinn not only admits to being unobjective, but REVELS in it!

So, I have no use for him.

joepeeler34   says August 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM

@g4macdad Here I looked it up for you since you are too lazy: Defense spending is between 20-28% of fed. spending depending on how it is counted. Supplementals skew the numbers.

As for S.S. it is 20% of the fed. budget alone. Medicare and Medicaid is 23% of the fed. budget. This doesn't include food stamps, AFDC, and other programs. It also doesn't include all the state and local programs.

Just google "The Federal Pie Chart" and scroll down.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 2:44 PM

@SaulOhio
You could not even comprehend what you read.

The "reviews" are irrelevant opinions.

YOU posted them as though they MEANT something.

SaulOhio   says August 17, 2011 at 2:44 PM

@g4macdad From the review you cited for "Human Action": "The author attempts to categorize his approach to economics, which he labels as a "praxeological system", as different from a "logical system", the latter of which does not include notions of time and causality."

Obvious distortion. I have read a large part of human action, including his discussions of logic and causality. Logic is primarily BOUT causality.

Your reviewer clearly hasn't read the book.

rgopp   says August 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Can we seriously PLEASE knock it off with the personal attacks?

What, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?

SaulOhio   says August 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM

@g4macdad Now the reviewer of "Meltdown" is making assumptions based on the title. Your authors explicitly reject objectivity.

What your reviewer of Woods would call bias is simply the fact that you cannot interpret complex economic phenomena without reference to some economic theory. Austrian economics is the theory that explains the housing bubble and crash the best.

People who explain the crash as a product of "deregulation" are clearly misguided, since there was no deregulation.

SaulOhio   says August 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM

@g4macdad No. It is NOT that good. It costs that much because leftist liberal college professors require it for their courses. I remember having to buy overinflated price books for college. Its a racket.

rgopp   says August 17, 2011 at 4:17 PM

@TullyRiven This is why I was only mildly offended.

Common problems require common solutions. This is why I disagree with Ron Pauls' definition of bipartisanship. It's not about combining the worst of both, as he views it, rather it's about combining the best of both, for the good of us all.

We're all in this together, after all.

SaulOhio   says August 17, 2011 at 4:49 PM

@g4macdad Sounds like a pretty good, accurate review of "Human Action". Those are qualities that recommend it, in my opinion. A mathematical, analytical approach to economics is inappropriate to the subject matter, and Mises explains why.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 5:24 PM

@SaulOhio
The book is THAT good.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 5:45 PM

"Meltdown, Thomas Woods" review;
The subtitle of the book is "A Free-Market Look at Why the Stock Market Collapsed, the Economy Tanked, and Government Bailouts Will Make Things Worse. Note that it is not an objective look, but a "Free-Market" look. Woods begins with his conclusion, and works his way backwards. So we know from the outset that we are not dealing with a work of scholarship.

Amazon. com

TullyRiven   says August 17, 2011 at 6:04 PM

@rgopp Pardon, perhaps I should have referred to him as an Alinksyite. "The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength."

You are absolutely right to point out that there are demagogues on the Left and the Right so "Leftist" was clearly not on target. I have many interesting debates with my brother who is a progressive/communist and while we strongly disagree we are always civil.

SaulOhio   says August 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM

@g4macdad "Democracy for the Few" OMFG! This anticapitalist screed sells for $90!! Even the Kindle edition costs $66.15!

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 7:04 PM

"Human Action" review;
This book is a non-quantitative, non-analytical, purely descriptive overview of economics as given by one of the main figures in the 'Austrian' school of economics. The author does not hesitate to denounce those who would seek to bring in mathematics and statistics in to the study of economics.

Amazon. com

rgopp   says August 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM

@g4macdad Why not? It's what you do. You've been making things up to suit your point of view the entire time you've been hurling insults on this video's comments.

redcups21   says August 17, 2011 at 8:54 PM

@g4macdad I'm not asking for anyone to care, for approval or a thumbs up. It's a youtube comment section. I can say whatever I damn well please. If you don't like it, thumb it down

rgopp   says August 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM

@TullyRiven As a progressive, I take mild offense to the leftist comment.

The reality of the fiscal situation is that it is bringing left and right together, seeking a solution to the fiscal and social bankruptcy running rampant around the world. We are all seeking a solution to the same issue, and we all recognize that both sides of the political spectrum have been hijacked by the problem.

Next time you make a comment like that, keep that in mind.

g4macdad   says August 17, 2011 at 10:05 PM

@joepeeler34
So you just lump all of the programs you dislike, call them what you WANT, then make up a NEW figure that suites your needs? You are ridiculous.

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